January 30th, 2012

HELL NAW

OK I think we all just got busted




According to this study released Friday, the old Pogo axiom "We have met the enemy and he is us" is pretty much proven true in politics, particularly by commenters (myself included) of political discussion.


Republicans and Democrats are less divided in their attitudes than popularly believed, according to new research. It is exactly those perceptions of polarization, however, that help drive political engagement, researchers say.

"American polarization is largely exaggerated,” says Leaf Van Boven of the University of Colorado Boulder, especially by people who adopt strong political stances. And when people perceive a large gap between political parties, they may be more motivated to vote. 

Um, that sounds like us. Us as in people who argue over the Internets about how bad the other side is.

Want to argue that this is NOT all in YOUR mind and not the reality of the masses?

Um

They found that the actual gap between the parties' political attitudes has not increased substantially over time and that members of both parties have consistently overestimated the size of that gap.

Moreover, Chambers' team found that those who perceived the greatest political polarization were more politically engaged – for example, more likely to have voted in the last election, tried to influence the vote of other voters, attended political rallies, or donated money to a party or candidate.

or...argued about it over the internet.

Per Rule 8 *grimace*, my opinion is I feel like this is exactly why I refuse any tags like LBRL, or CON or DEM or GOP or LIB or GRN... any tag other than "skeptical independent", a foe of the status quo. Yet I am guilty of condemning neocon positions, not because of what liberals say they might do, but because of what THEY say THEY want to do. But liberals maintain the status quo, so I am not with that label either.

Do you agree with the premise of the study, that the only people who feel the enemy is at the gates are those like us who are intellectually involved in politics the way the average voter is into sport franchises, and feel compelled by win/loss brainwashing to demonize an 'opposing' ideology as a downfall of civilization/liberty/freedom etc?

Or are we the proverbial hounds at the gate/canary in the coalmine, etc? You know, someone paying attention to dangers instead of the central masses.

Oh, and in before cognitive dissonance. Be careful how you answer!

toon
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What's the size of the Iranian threat really?

Iran is far from being a homogeneous society and a united regime, contrary to what some people might think. In fact it's a very complex society, and its political landscape is defined by strong internal contradictions. On one side, it's a theocracy - ruled by the supreme clergy. And most of all, by ayatollah Khamenei, who seems incapable of compromises. President Ahmadinejad is more like his political rival than ally, and it's unclear how far exactly his power stretches. On the other hand, the power of the regime rests upon the Revolutionary Guard, an institution whose influence has practically turned Iran into a quasi-military dictatorship. There are strong discrepancies within the camp of the ayatollahs too.

The pro-reformist bloc which includes the former presidential candidate Hussayn al-Musawi and former president Mohammad Khatami, are also opposed to Ahmadinejad. The camp of the clerics is torn by internal power struggles and ideological discord. All that said, nominally, and to a great extent practically, the main power is in the hands of ayatollah Khamenei, who never misses a chance to demonstrate that. Besides, the mass protests in Tehran (interpreted by the regime as a direct attempt by the West to undermine their rule - no surprise there) have shown that the pro-liberal Iranians are also a formidable factor, although being suppressed with brute force - for now.

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Soros, Revolution, NWO, OMG! ...And a couple of polls.

George Soros predicts class war and riots
George Soros, the billionaire investor, has predicted riots on the streets and global class war as the economic downturn results in a new "age of fallibility".

Just a few days after the publication of the Global Risks 2012 Report at Davos where the world was promised utter boredom and pervasive pessimism and apathy for the next 12 months, out of the blue, here we have the next bombshell. After having consulted with his magic 8-ball, the evil finance speculator and benevolent philanthropist, the (in)famous George Soros now has an ominous prophecy for us to heed: no more, no less but a true Revolución in America! In his opinion, the new heralds of the glorious People's Revolution this time will be the Occupy Wall Street guys (with whom he "sympathizes" with all his heart). The most visible difference from "that other" Revolution, he thinks, is that this one doesn't have any official leaders. (Or does it? Just ask Alex Jones!)

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